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whiskey/beer/alcohol toilet paper cigarettes/tobacco powdered baby formula i never thought about the baby formula angle until my neighbor brought it up. apparently it's like gold these days. |
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What about water filters, like small ones meant for camping use?
Small heaters, gas or propane fired stoves. |
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Quality, refillable lighters and butane canisters.
Those little propane tanks that they make every heating/cook device you can think of for. chad nailed all the other ones in my list. |
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batteries as well. what do you think would be best? aa? d cell? c? what does most stuff run off these days?
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Tampons and condoms.
Edited to add: painkillers and antibiotics. |
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Coffee will be valuable.
Tampons (hygienic products) formula will need water so you might be limited on buyers |
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Flashlights and headlamps
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those little green propane tanks are a good idea. cheap too, good barter item, especially if you paired it with a cheap stove. and you could always use it yourself.
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You almost need a consistant underground source to get around the shelf life of long term storage. I do know that alot of vet antibiotics can be used on humans just fine and there are sources on-line but long term colapse type situation and that avenue goes bye, bye. At that point you need to go black market and try and get close to a maker of some kind. Similar to the illegal drug trade. Being able to produce painkillers and antibiotics that work and won't kill you by accident is something that will elevate you to the top of the food chain in a hurry post SHTF. That would be a "career" to look into if you can get the materials needed to make them and have the brains for it. |
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That was a long time ago and your mileage may vary. |
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Take ammo off your list. Been discussed over and over that you do not what to arm people around you who you are bartering with. If it truly gets ugly who wouldn't trade someone their most valuable items for something they can turn right around and use to get back said valuable item + whatever else that person may have stocked up on.
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Over the counter medications -- tylenol, aspirin, etc. Highly needed, easily divisible, long shelf life, easily to store, hide, transport, etc.
And cans of tuna. Dymaxion |
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What about the basics, toothpaste, soap, toothbrushes, combs, and diapers? I know when we do humanitarian aid kits that some of the stuff we put in them
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100 Items to Disappear First
1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.) 2. Water Filters/Purifiers 3. Portable Toilets 4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses. 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much. 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots. 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks. 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,) 12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly) 13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking. 14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.) 15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric) 16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur. 17. Survival Guide Book. 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc. 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) 21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) 22. Vitamins 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item) 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products. 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil) 27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item) 28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) 29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many). 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels 31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months) 32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit 35. Tuna Fish (in oil) 36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room) 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) 39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies 40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) 41. Flour, yeast & salt 42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.) 45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts 46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns 47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times) 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient) 51. Fishing supplies/tools 52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams 53. Duct Tape 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes 55. Candles 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid) 57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags 58. Garden tools & supplies 59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc. 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) 62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) 63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc 65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) 67. Board Games, Cards, Dice 68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) 71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc. 73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave) 74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels) 75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase 76. Reading glasses 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) 78. "Survival-in-a-Can" 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens 80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) 82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) 85. Lumber (all types) 86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from) 87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc. 89. Lantern Hangers 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts 91. Teas 92. Coffee 93. Cigarettes 94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,) 95. Paraffin wax 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. 97. Chewing gum/candies 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) 99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs 100. Goats/chickens From a Sarajevo War Survivor: Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks. 1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate near renewable food sources. 2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden. 3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's. 4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.) 5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk. 6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll have a lot of time on your hands. 7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else. 8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/ite...ppearfirst.htm |
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i would be thinking of parents with small children
if there's no tv to babysit the kids, the kiddies are going to be crying for attention take a walk thru Toys R US and then think simple and cheap coloring books ? |
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Yup .........card games like UNO, Memory and puzzles will go a looooooooooooooong way to keeping the peace for the littel ones. T |
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$5 Survival Knives (Full-Tang, Cord-Wrapped Handle) Are in every bag I have....Good barter Item...
I have a box of lighters that have an LED flashlight on the bottom...very useful...Found some Zippos for a couple bucks each...Zippo fluid is another item... Another item? Candy! Hard sucker candy. Got a mix of peppermints, strawberries, Fireballs and butterscotches for 99 cents a pound. When the dollar crashes those are going to be looking tasty for a penny a pop. |
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hard candy stores like forever and could be gold for parents trying to keep the hunger pangs away a 1 lb bag of hard candy is definitely more than a penny a pop |
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Powdered milk
Powdered eggs powdered butter Booze |
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:signs14: I have gotta laugh at this one......i grew up with sticks..rocks..string...etc as my toys....:cry1:......its us old folks that need entertainment |
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I can't believe no one has mentioned marijuana. One of the greatest stores of value ever...as long as you don't smoke it all!
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valuable on the black market it would not be worth much at all kind of like any other herb or utilitarian plant? so in times of little or no law it would be close to worthless? just a thought electrical tape solar panels but not if you want to be moving with them and they have the added advantage of saving or eliminating your electrical bill untill needed for barter. |
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R-A-Z-O-R B-L-A-D-E-S
The disposables nowadays are worthy and Costco sells bulk packs with coupon specials. |
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food and water---shelter and protection
Shoes and medicine. Basic stuff in a Fema Camp E-A |
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I've given a bit of thought to this for more reasons than one. I'm pushing 60 pretty hard and I've got an elderly mother to take care of. My two sons are around, available, and willing, but I think we need to be as independent as possible.
We've stockpiled better than a year's worth of groceries and toiletries, we have our pm stash and a reasonably healthy stash of cash. Add to that six months of food for the animals, six months of Mom's rx's, and LOTS of blankets, warm clothes, and tools. I'm currently working on my first aid kit, which includes bandaging, peroxide, rubbing alchohol, antibiotic creams, cold/cough/flu medications, etc., etc., etc. We're also acquiring a healthy stock of books, jigsaw puzzles, crossword books, and simple games (dominoes, Scrabble, Yahtzee, checkers, chess, etc.) for our own entertainment. But I know there are going to be things we need or want later that we may have to barter for. I want the barter items to take up as little storage room as possible, to be reasonably cheap now, to be indispensible (and therefore valuable) later, light-weight, and universal.... in other words things that almost everybody needs. The list of barter items we are accumulating is pretty short but meets all the criteria: toothbrushes disposable cigarette lighters (for lighting fires) socks salt disposable razors manual can openers cheap sunglasses (going to be alot of people working outdoors in gardens, etc.) chapstick (good for any harsh weather -- heat, cold, wind, etc) 5x8 pads of paper fishing hooks & line bars of soap clothes pins small jars of spices and herbs (often available at Dollar Store for $.50) decks of cards (entertainment for both kids and adults) small boxes of baking soda (cooking, cleaning, medical uses, and makes both an excellent toothpaste or deoderant substitute) Optional Items: small tobacco pouches rolling papers small flasks of liquor (half pints) shampoo (Dollar Store) I absolutely agree with the poster who states that arming your neighbors is a bad idea. |
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